Chimaira Frontman Questions The Future Of Metal
/ News / 19/01/2010 13:59pm
“Where’s the next Metallica or Slipknot?” asks Mark Hunter.
In a recent interview with Noisecreep, Chimaira’s Mark Hunter has been questioning the originality of metal bands over recent years.
“Our tier of bands, our wave, (Killswitch Engage), Lamb Of God, we were the last legitimate new style of music to come out of metal,” says Hunter. “There hasn’t been anything new. Where’s the next Slipknot or Metallica or the next band that takes over and changes what heavy metal is all about and gets everybody interested in it again?”
Does Hunter have a point or is he ignoring new music?







IWRESTLEDABEARONCE its the future!
Well, Mr Hunter’s in a place where he can do something about it. Trawl the web for unsigned bands and give one of them the support slot on your next tour. No point moaning about an abstract notion.
Does this man own the new Mastodon or Baroness?
Hey, gimme a couple of years to build up a fanbase!
But don’t worry, I’m on my way! \,,/
Metal is going more extreme, bands like Gojira, Immortal, Dark Funeral are all good examples…music usually has a 10 year period where certain bands dominate the industry…but he is right in saying bands which are coming out now will be hard to get to LOG or Slipknot status…we will just have to wait and see, its largely due to the fact that the music industry is fucked atm.
Sylosis, I honestly believe that they are gunna be the forerunners in metal in the future
If I could buy stocks in Mutiny Within right now, I would! They’re destined for greatness in the way Scar Symmetry deserved but never got.
Ignoring new music like a dick, he just lost all my respect for him that I had as a musician in a second, what an ignorant fuck.
As mentioned by both readers and critics, Mastodon are being hailed as the new succesors.
He should get off his soap box and stop listening to the same old shit.
Am I the only one who thinks crack the sky is’nt all everyone says it is? I think it’s the most over rated album of last year.
another vote for sylosis. although i honestly believe the new wave of metal is architects (who i love) and bring me the horizon, and skinny jeans and hair straightners. and huge ear stretchers. and snakebites. this displeases me.
i totally agree with mark it seems nowadays everyone wants to be like someone instead of following there natural path and doin there own thing i no a band that are coming up the ranks as them selfs called sworn amongst check them owt
He’s got a point. There are not a lot new metal bands…Maybe we have to wait a little more longer, ’cause some bands are emerging, but the process is different now, it’s like the industry is going backwards… and ‘casper’, Mastodon is not New, Hunter is talking about bands, not records.
theres a festival called BOA that be the future of metal, extreme metal is huge in rest of europe
breakdown bands, is what i meant to say. couldnt think of any examples.
Also, if he wants band’s doing new things, look no further than Gojira
Mastodon ? Immortal ? these are stupid suggestions for bands that have been out basically as long as or longer than Chimaira, Killswitch and LoG.
Its not hard to imagine that Mark includes Mastodon in his ‘teir,’ of bands.
And Immortal ? Pfft.
chimaira should be huge, they are amazing. but they shot themselves in the foot (feet?) by moving into a heavier darker sound. they couldve blended in to a standard metalcore scene but chose to push their own musical boundaries, so respect for that.
while i like mastodon, they are overrated in my opinion.
as for sylosis, yeah great band but anterior are superior and before them of course were the mighty mendeed, best british band in fucking years. shame they had to split. as long as sylosis stick to being a quality metal band they should do well
final rant, its probably gonna be bullet for my valentine who become the next big thing, not in an innovative way like tallica/slipknot but just because they are determined to be commercial whores! but if it leads people onto better bands then fuck it
Architects and possibly After the Burial are the future of metal. Its a shame about half of their fan base being kids just following trends but the bands themselves are different and talented.
What a baffoon….There’s loads of new and decent metal these days. He just hasn’t bothered to look hard enough, or he only likes boring, un-inspired bands (such as Slipknot, who he used as an example of a good, original band?!?!). Europe especially is brooding with all-sorts of awesome new bands. All you have to do is go on Youtube and there’s an abundance.
I agree with Josh and his other personality Killerjosh9 about crack the skye – oblivion is a great track but I feel the rest of the album is a let down…. it is the most over-rated album of last year by far.
As to regards with new metal bands comming out I feel bands need to look into their image aswell as their music. Metallica came out with jeans and tee tearing the place up with trash music at at time music was in the glam scene.. Slipknot came out with boiler suits and masks and were seen by the mainstream as being absolute nutters… the biggest bands are the ones with the biggest personalities – Marilyn Manson with his whole image. even going back to Sabbath , they had ozzy osbourne.
I’m not saying bands need to go down the whole shock rock idea, I just think they need to focus a little more on not just the music, but the big picture aswell.
Fucking hell! this guy’s doom and gloom! God knows what it must’ve been like around mid-way through the ’90’s >.<
(Too young to remember)
Also: Blood Mountain > Any other Mastodon record. Why am I the only one who thinks this!?
we need a new big four of thrash, and what’s up with slipknot, why would anybody want to be the new slipknot
Sylosis absolutly rock, theyre going to get real big if they keep going as they are.
I think what’s being forgoten here is that the future of Metal may not be US bred, just like the early bands who set off the US scene the current US scene has set off quite of bit of foreign talent, much of it here as well as Bands like Gojira and eastern european bands who’ve yet to break through to ‘mainstream’
Lets not forget that the Genre is so wide that having the kind of cross genre appeal Metallica have is going to be alot harder! (slipknot are still a hot/cold band for many)
More Variety in the genre is important anyways variety breeds inovation and keeps things ticking over.
Metal is as Metal does!
@j
breakdown bands are fucking shite, no talent they a fucking crap all they care is how they fucking look.
mastodon, lamb of god, tool, devidriver, down, is where its at, but i can see where he is coming from, theres not much coming through.
I love how he lumps himself in with LoG and KSE. Chimaira are nowhere near as good or popular as either band (and yes, I know good and popular are different things – Chimaira are neither).
I saw him on DVD once asking why the fans who watched Pantera back in the day weren’t coming to Chimaira shows. Sorry Mark, it’s not because metal is in a bad state. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the state of metal at the moment – it’s just that your band is shite and nobody wants to go watch shite bands.
Sylosis and Anterior are the future. I have spoken.
My thoughts on this were too long for the site, so I’ve blogged about it.
http://notmetalrepka.blogspot.com/2010/01/future-of-metal.html
Oh, and I agree with all those praising Sylosis- they’re stunning. But I suspect they’re a bit heavy and challenging to be the size of a Pantera or Slipknot.
Sylosis. Born of Osiris. Five finger Death Punch,Trivium.
I can partially understand what he means but if you look and recentl not very hard you can find some amazing band. There is no replacement for metallica or lamb of god or killswitch or even slipknot because they are all were they are for doing what they do and doing it fucking well..
nuff said
I have followed Metal for 28 years now – I’m 40. My first years gigs as a teenager were Thin Lizzy, Saxon, Maiden. Went off it a bit about 6 or 7 years ago. Stopped going to gigs but kept some interest in the scene.
2009 – heard “Crack the Skye” by Mastodon on spotify, and bought it in a instant. IMO this album is the best i’ve heard for a very long time. The more you listen – the more you will uncover/discover.
Now i’m back going to gigs more than I ever did – My appetite has been truly whetted by this record.
Karma to Burn, Wolf, Black Spiders, Lamd of God, Evile, Finntroll – I love em all !
i think the future of music lies within the bands that mix various styles to create something new, mainly the industrial metal bands like Mnemic and Sybreed. but from what i have seen from Textures over the last couple of years, they have a lot going for them and could be very big. id also suggest keeping an eye on System Divide who have incorperated a great mix of death and melodic metal.
I don’t get it. Why would we ever want another Metalica or Slipnot or god forbid another failed experiment like Maralyn Manson? Surely the fact that Chimera Lamb O God and Mastadon havn’t become as huge as them is a good thing as we all know shit sells better than quality.
I agree with his comments.
I’m not saying there aren’t great bands around, Down, Alice In Chains, Machine Head all good, but there is such an overload of the same shit being churned out.
The formula I’m taking about is as follows:
1) Front men as vocalists (not playing instruments) that all pretty much sound the same.
2)The SAME riffs being played on the SAME string over and over again.
3)Because some of the riffs are so samey and repetitive the drummer has to be overly clicky with his drumming and before you know it, when your watching them live all you can hear is the drummer doing his thing and the guitars are just white noise.. Machine Head anyone?
Actually thats unfair because Machine Head put 110% into their live performance, however their sound live is a fucking mash to say the least, especially when you compare to the clarity of riffs being heard if you see Metallica straight after. Half is to do with sound engineers and the other to do with riffs being written in different notes and strings as opposed to an overly downtuned bottom E constantly.
Thats a regretfull bash on my half because one of the best gigs i ever went to was Machine Head playing the entirety of BME at man academy
4) Production of modern albums almost sounds fake!
Pretty much you can guarantee every band/producer uses drumagog (sampling) and there is nothing wrong with that, but production sounds the same with nearly every fucking album and its because all the producers are going down the sampling route and the “track guitars with 5150s” all the fucking time.
The result of all the above is simply that even the heaviest most extreme recordings I do not even find heavy any longer because I am conditioned by hearing them all the time.
I find older albums with raw production like And Justice For All or Arise much heavier because THEY have a good balance of heavy riff and tuneful riff. Dynamics.
Finally, i think the general public have some part to blame with the truth in Mark Hunters comments.
I play in a band myself on the UK underground scene and it is frightening to see how people will come up to you at the end of a gig and will want to buy a copy of your album but will be reluctant to even pay £1 for it.
Todays culture and kids growing up and experiencing music and metal are seeing that you can get it for free from the internet. They dont know or remember the age where you had to pay for an album. They EXPECT that you can get it for free.
A lot of bands are doing the recording themselves these days and only charge money for CDs to try and recoup the money spent in studio/producing t shirts, travel expenses to get to gigs which more often than not are unpaid.
The industry has taken to signing very similar sounding bands, but from what i’ve seen there are fucking LOADS of greaqt original sounding bands on the underground scene so my advise to all is to get out and support the underground scene where you’ll hear great music, get wrecked from free jagermiester given out to the crowds and meet/hang with the band after the gigs been played.
I dont believe it
Rant over
Textures from Holland pure class but I think the next wave of metal could well be from our wee shores sylosis, trigger the bloodshed and chimera are shit
i don’t rate chimaira or slipknot as being the most amazing metal bands but then again as soon as you said you want to see another metallica you lost me. Look at metal as it is today most bands have been influenced by metallica in some way so they’re all another part of metallica in some way or another and do we want to recreate them? you don’t recreate legends it’s just not how music works you progress from that not just remake old bands.
And if you mean you’re the last line of massive metal bands? your blind.
Sylosis, they’re going from strength to strength
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although sylosis are a good band thy dont cut it live, so i dont reckon thyll get as big as trivium etc.
if 5FDP are the next big thing then i give up on music lol
Machine Head anyone?
@Adam
Too old. They’re only five years younger than Metallica
He certainly has a point, seems every new metal band for last few years sound exactly the same – thrashy riffs, shouty vocals, melodic chorus, sung vocals. And the few bands that don’t follow the formula are just aping the bands that were cutting edge 15-20 years ago.
Maybe I’m just being an old bastard but the metal ’scene’ is so dull and uninspired at the moment.
tbh decent bands dnt get the recognition these days.. i stumbled across what i believe to be the best band around atm and no one knows em… id seriously recomend looking up Awake By Design on myspace / youtube or sumthin..
Has anyone noticed the NWOTM? Great new, old-school metal is currently popular in 2010. White Wizzard, Hysterica, Skeletonwitch etc…
My old band was described as original by the guy who done our demo and owned the recording place we practiced. He thought there was real potential in the sound….we couldnt even put a genre on it ourselves
Hmmm. Im intregued about Sylosis now. Saw em last year and i nearly shit myself. They were amazing live. Ill have to see if it translates on cd. Personally i think Leviathan and Blood mountain were better than Crack… Mastodon are not that kind of band. Metaller love it, but i cant see mastodon attracting new people to the scene like the knot of metallica once did. They are like tool. They’ll keep goiong and have a slow and steadily growing and loyal fanbase and play big slots at fests, but they wont go much higher. Not that i dont think they deserve it. Seen them about 8 times or something silly.
And anyone who talks about bullet for my valentine, you might as well talk about what linkin park did for metal. pointless.
i think hunter has a point. there is a lot of great music out there, but none who have what it takes to headline fests, even in coming years. even as i scroll through my media player library. i used to think killswitch would. alive or just breathing was AMAZING! end of heartache was fantastic too, but from there on each album became predictable, not that i dont love them too. I am a massive bleeding through fan too, but 4 albums in they havent become huge so they prob aint going to. even opeths last album was a bit of a slump. BUT as always, something will appear soon enough. it usually does and is cyclical. lets not forget, lamb of god released their 5th album (sacrament) before they got really big – one as burn the priest also. it could be someone who we think of now as good but nothing special.
sorry about the rant!
By saying Metallica and Slipknot what I think he is getting at really are bands that are going to break into the mainstream I mean there are bands not as big as Slipknot who have changed the genre more than them… and I can understand why their might not be many new bands out now who could be selling out arenas and stadiums like ‘Tallica, Slipknot and Maiden…. butI feel happy about the future of Metal as it is the quality of the band and their live show and not the amount of records they sell! Long live Metal!
*Having said that 5FDP could reach arena size….and Sylosis are awesome!
I believe that Mastodon and Lamb of God are the current leading lights in Metal. There will be a band who takes it into the next generation, the only questions are when? and, of course, who?
And, for the record… (since this discussion is ongoing)
My opinion = Crack the Skye>Leviathan>Blood Mountain>Remission (Blood Mountain is still epic, i just like Leviathan more).
I’m very dissapointed to hear Mark Hunter saying this!! He clearly has become just as narrow minded and egotistical as the bands that came before him. I think Chimaira are great, but quite frankly if he thinks that style of music was the last ‘orriginal’ style of music to come out he must be insane.
If you gonna think like that you could argue the last orriginal music actually came out in the 80’s or 90’s!! Seeing as everything afterwards has just been a merger of differing sounds into something ‘new’. I for one think there are plenty of fresh new ideas out there. The majority of which are actually from unsigned bands!!!
My band cant say they are 100% orriginal but we do try and make things orriginal and blend everything we like into 1. Mark take a deeper look and you’ll see something you werent expecting, and get off your self built high horse!
If my band ever does make it then I hope I dont find myself saying utter crap like that!
Cheers people and keep up the good work writing new and exciting music!
Oh and isnt part of the reason for the lack of decent new music actually in the hands of the money grabbing record companies!! Seeing as pretty hard for decent bands to get their music out their unless you got enough of a backing.
Start looking Mark Hunter otherwise, you’ll otherwise your prophecy may come true, and talent will be wasted!
Dark Cell, Subversion both are doing excellent in their respective ways. Metal will take care of itself, even if the lesser sides of it fall off – good.
When the people that it means near nothing to drift away, we will see what we should see anyway; how many people really love it for what it is, rather than what is sold.
yes he does have a strong point. but heres an answer, malfice, evile, trigger the bloodshed and borelia mass. all english!
I know here in America it seems like death/deathcore metal bands such as sucide silence, black dahila murder and job for a cowboy are the coming trend. Comercial sucessful I hate to say it but 5FDP is really whoring them selves out and sellng out shows left and right. Sylosis is fucking amazing but over here they get no love really. I really agree that mastadon is highly overrated saw them live and it sucked. I don’t know if there really any well known bands right now that will be the next big thing. But were over due for a change in metal. Some band that wll come out and really shake shit up.
the dude’s got a point. And all the people saying Mastodon are missing the point, they’re not new. And all the people naming obscure (and usually extreme) metal bands are just fucking retarded. There hasn’t been a debut metal album that has captured the imagination of a generation, like Slipknot’s first, for a few years.
tbh the most fashionable and obvious wave of music seems to be scene and even though those bands call themselves metal, they’re far from it!!! I reckon it’s a good thing that this current generation is a little wierd in having a trend on the go (which basically we don’t!) cos when a new ‘metallica’ comes out then it’s gonna be huge, and in a way, plagueing us all with shit music will hopefully make some people angry an write some decent shit!!!???
How many times must it be said, bands like Chimaira, Slipknot and Lamb of God are not metal
If you listen to the earliest metal records, you’ll notice how politically-driven and relevant that they were, with each song telling a different story, whether it was about impending doom, paranoia or drug addiction,
Fast forward 40 years and what do we have?
Utter Shite, that’s what.
Back in 1970, it wasn’t about who could play the fastest or who could scream the loudest, they just wrote about what they had seen and changed the fucking world
Anyone heard the new Warbringer album ‘Walking into Nightmares’, best album of 2009 imo.
Mark Hunter has a point, but if anything, Metal stopped being original years ago. It hasn’t got any heavier since the early 90’s (Second Wave of Black Metal) & any detour into another genre is hailed as ‘not-being-real-metal’. That doesn’t mean Metals bad at the moment, its just the boundaries have been pushed as far as they can (so far) go, and metalheads have become so introverted. If a band becomes popular (take 5FDP, LOG, Slipknot & Metallica for example) many will suddenly come out saying ‘this band isn’t metal because they’re popular” even if they used to like them.
BUT
at some point another band will become as big as Metallica, however, not until Metallica step down. It could be anyones guess though as to whether its something New & Exciting or something you’ve heard a million times before.
British and other European countries have been producing alot of good stuff lately but remember Chimaira are American and he’s right in that there really hasn’t been any good new bands coming out of the US since the bands he mentions.
All i’m saying is Five Finger Death Punch!!!
Stuka Squadron
AHEM:
converge.
Anyone else think more Klingon metal is the way forward?
Alien folk metal?
anyone…?
Didn’t think so, but i’m going to Stovokor one way or the other – and I’m taking Valhalla with me
This is talk from a man who’s band has gone backwards since their self titled album to the point that they are now supporting Trivium of all bands!!!
It’s too early for the next generation of metal bands!!! Bands like Lamb of God and Mastodon are the current leaders of the scene and will be around for the next 10-15 years minimum. By then there will be many more bands coming through who are influenced by them. Much the same as what Metallica and Maiden have done for so many artists!
Sorry Mark, I love chimaira, but you’re talking tripe mate!
As Tenacious D said ‘you cannot kill the metal!’…
@Johnny Buc chimaira supporting trivium will actually benefit them, doesnt matter whether u like trivium or not, they’re a popular band which will expose more people to chimaira’s music. i agree about them going backwards to a degree tho
personally i think metallica were a one off, no other band has pushed metal BOTH stylistically and commercially, not even maiden (even tho maiden are better in my opinion) generally speaking albums dont sell as much as they used to, partially from downloading, so for a band to be as big as metallica is unlikely.
i dont think we NEED another metallica, slipknot etc. metal keeps getting stronger whether its commercial or not. just look at cannibal corpse as a great band who keep making fantastic metal and have toured their asses off for 20+ years with very little mainstream acceptance
There hasn’t been a band like Metallica who reinvented the wheel, and these days everything has been done. So you get all these bands who just play generic crap.
The wave of American metal bands at the begining of the century were the last great metallers.
These days its just ‘drop tuned, double bass, breakdown, scream’ rubbish.
I really want to sort it out, and because of the internet (good for finding new bands) though its faults – millions of people downloading music for free. its very hard for new bands to make it big, unless you have a really commercial sound i.e 5FDP or have a song on guitar hero haha.
5 FINGER DEATH PUNCH
FOUR, BRUTAL, WORDS….
FIVE
FINGER
DEATH
PUNCH
Oh, and Steel Panther! HAHA
sylosis, gojira, anterior, no made sense are doin something i havent heard before, severance, shadows far (not to be confused with shadows fall)
5FDP are exactly whats wrong with heavy music these days.
Well… for me, a band like Opeth is what I consider innovative creations towards metal music these days…
He’s right, there are no stand out next big thing bands. If LOG stuck to their guns and didn’t those last two albums who knows……. I mean i personally could not compare sacrement or wrath with ashes or as the palaces burn. i think if the record buying public had any sense of what was good we’d all be listening to meshuggah. If the mainstream metalheads didn’t chose to ignore the great southern trendkill then i think we’d all be at a different place right now.THE TREND IS DEAD!!!!!!
I think that he was wrong to say nothing new coming up or new bands taking over, as there clearly will be.
Am i the only one to think ( although they have had 4 albums now and been going abit) that Black Dahlia Murder are becoming large, especially in their genre anyway. I for one fucking love them and think they keep growing and developing as band. Deflorate was one of my favirote album last year. It would be great to see them become one of metal big hitters without selling out or being weird.
Anybody agree?
But as he says ‘the new wave’ whats wrong with the current wave, there is still much to show from the bands within the current wave. E.g. im excited to see what logs next album will be like. Knowing them it will be nothing short of immense.
Also as everybody is pointing out that sylosis could be, i agree with this. Nice to see they are british also.
FFDP are useless and shouldn’t get bigger.
Revocation should become pretty big.
I agree with everyone on the Sylosis front.
Everyone may hate this but bands like Architects, BMTH and Dead Swans are doing something original and awesome, and are just being judged by their looks.
suicide silence, job for a cowbpy, PARKWAY DRIVE, as blood runs black. its about time metallica call it a day. and slipknot are awful now. it s time for metal to get heavy again. bring on the young death metal and metalcore
5FDP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
one word
SYLOSIS
conversation over basically, they are honestly the future of metal, Conclusion of an Age is the most underrated album EVER fucking released, that album should have made sylosis fucckkiinngg massiiivvveee.
But i have no doubts that the new album will take them to the level COAA should have, and they’ve been very smart with the support slots they have been doing.
actually so fucking glad that other ppl mentioned them, makes me even more convinced that they will be massive.
also, August Burns Red deserve some sort of mention
Lol big fan of Chimaira next Metallica or slipknot? Lmfao needs to listen to FFDP or Soulfly Max C. kicks ass
Casper LOL! BMTH and Architects doing something original? Gojira and Mastodon are doing something original
A Farewell To Arms
I think Five Finger Death Punch because they have all been in bands before and now know what work’s, they have the drive to be great. I do think some of you guys have made great point’s too.
I think it’s worth pointing out that by their third/fourth Album, Metallica were gaining widespread recognition and popularity in the states, which manifested itself in the shape of the Black Album (which you will have your own opinion on).
With illegal downloading so prevalent these days (much more so than when Slipknot debuted), any new metal band is not gonna get the sales required to get the attention that will enable arena tours/mainstream coverage. That said, when a metal band does get huge, a lot of you guys will naturally lose interest, and seek out something more underground and ‘real’.
In terms of music, the best new band i’ve heard recently is Malefice. Anyone else agree they have loads of potential?
This guy cannot compare 2010 bands to 1983/1999 bands. We should be thankful that we have a rich diversity of great bands such as Trivium/Behemoth/TBDM/Machine head etc.
For what it’s worth, i completely misunderstand the big deal about both 5FDP and Mastodon (and steel panther!)
Obscura have the potential to be something truly special I believe
u cant seriously expect sylosis to be massive after just one album! its hardly a commercial sound. as ive stated before Mendeed had the potential to do great things but the support was never there, then suddenly sylosis, anterior etc are getting good reputations for a similar style. i think timing has a lot to do with success too.
nothing he mentioned is metal, kill switch engage? give me a fucking break, slipknot?, my last time ever on this fucking piece of shit site, who the fuck is he to say something like that, all the real genres right now are more alive than ever, he’s only talking about his metalcore, mallcore, rapcore, deathcore posers, not about true metal, fucking moron piece of shit, metal hammer magazine = toilet paper.
The whole deathcore/ new school death metal scene is something original and new.
Although some bands (BMTH) do divide opinion, and some of the bands are too image concious, and some of the bands are shit, a lot of this wave of bands are bringing some new styles to the table and offering a great contribution (JFAC, AOAA, Bleed From Within etc)
METAL WON’T BE THE SAME FOR THE COMING YEARS, IT’LL HAVE A TAG AND REVIVE SOMETHING BIG ALREADY DONE BANDS LIKE MUNICIPAL WASTE, TOXIC HOLOCAUST, SEEM TO BE BRINGING BACK A THRASH REVIVAL (WHICH IS AWESOME) AND WITH THE NEWS OF THE THRASH FOUR TOURING IT’LL BE AROUND THAT TIME THAT THE LABELS AND RECORD COMPANYS WILL MAKE A PUSH FOR IT, EXPECT TO SEE THRASH BANDS OLD AND NEW FROM EXODUS TO EVILE SPLASHED AROUND EVERYWHERE… IF NOT LISTEN TO PIG DESTROYER AS GRINDCORE NEVER FAILS
deathcore isnt original, dying fetus have been playing brutal death metal with some breakdowns for years. and most of these bands have just ripped off suffocation etc. deathcore is just a heavier offshoot of metalcore which wasnt that original either. im a fan of some deathcore bands but its hardly a rapid development. its evolution but not revolution lol
i think mark hunter’s point was perhaps there’s nobody looking to truly break through to the mainstream AND take metal forward stylistically. as i said before i dont think it matters about mainstream success. the media STILL largely ignores iron maiden for fuck’s sake!
oh yeah… DOWN & the return of CROWBAR, it dont need speed and double bass to be heavy as fuck,
Considering his band are pretty gash he doesn’t have much right to comment but he does have a very good point. I can think of very few bands that have emerged since the 80s that are even worth mentioning. Slipknot? Piss off. They are exactly what’s wrong with modern metal.
I think the main problem with the bands that are emerging these days is that they are all far too narrow minded. They are all so determined to sound like Pantera, Lamb of God or Machine Head or something and so that’s basically all they listen to and take influence from. But if you consider the likes of Metallica: they listened to NWOBHM (which in itself had many varied sounds like Sabbath, Motorhead, Maiden and Diamond Head) as well as various punk bands and American rock acts. Their influences came from all over the place.
Oh and consistently ripping along the bottom string of your guitar and screaming over the top of it does’t automatically make you metal. Where are the proper riffs? Have we learned nothing from Tony Iommi??
He does have a really good point, however his band are not original. A lot of metal bands ARE sounding the same at the moment and its getting really boring I don’t know if its to do with production or just bands coyping other and not taking chances and being original, we need a next wave in both Rock and metal, I am sure its on its way.
There are some great bands out there at the moment such as Textures, Mastodon, Mnemic. Also great british bands like Echoed Silence wokring their way up:
http://www.myspace.com/echoedsilenceuk
There is allot of new bands trying to make a name for themselves and not sounding or looking like the latest rock n roll trend.
It’s more what the industry wants and so allot of really good bands get ignored, although I don’t think that it will take long for the next big band to rear their heads.
who needs new music as long as machine head are bringing out records like the blackening
You guys need to get laided LOL p.s fuck you to all who hate slipknot they are the kings FUCK U!!
I agree with the Mastodon and Opeth statements, but I think that it will be with a mixture of the more catchy ‘mathcore/progressive metalcore’ that will emerge, such as Protest the Hero. But if the future is progressive count me in!
I don’t see the whole Sylosis thing either. They’re not that bad but I think they’re only popular because they’re an English replication of the American scene.
I think what Hunter’s getting at is that there have been no paradigm shifting bands which is true, not due to a decline in quality but down to the massive changes in the music industry and how music is consumed post-metalcore.
Metal has got more diffuse due to the proliferation of broadband internet increasing the accessibility of even the most esoteric metal bands.
The internet has taken control away from music television and magazines meaning that these outlets do not determine the zeitgeist.
He does have a point there. Sure, metal has been getting heavier and harder these days, but the downside is it’s losing it’s ‘individuality’, so to speak. Almost every band wants to be like Lamb Of God or Killswitch Engage (And Killswtich was just doing what the Sweedish metal bands were doing ages before they existed).
Well, there is Arsonists Get All The Girls, Iwrestledabearonce and Blood Stain Child that bother to step outside the circle…