the way i see it there’s nothing new about emo, it’s been on the go for years long before the likes of My Chemical Romance became big and when that happened and emo suddenly had a younger fanbase it suddenly became cool for the mature and sophisticated types to take the piss out of that culture and for the Daily mail to run scare stories about it.

There’s nothing wrong with a bit of harmless rivalry and even a bit of banter and piss taking between fans of differnt music but all this hatred is going to far and to be honest I find emo bashers are a lot more whiney and pathetic than the emo’s they claim to hate.

“I became an adult and realized all of that was bullshit. Who gives a damn what people dress like or what they listen to?”

exactly.

Ultimately we are all humans…
However, I do feel there is a destinction between the healthy competition and banter between the various groups of metalheads, emos, goths, vikings, scene kids with neon shirts and whoever else is routinely in the same venues/skateparks/clothing shops/websites etc.
We should accept that whilst we have differences in musical and fasion taste, My Chemical Romance, Slayer, Anal Cunt, Bring Me the Horizon, The Clash, Gorgoroth – it’s all related, we’re all lumped under one umbrella, and whilst us metallers may not like My Chemical Romance, I’d rather get over bumping into some “emos” occaisonaly than give them the same grief that I suspect we’ve all had to put up with from yobs, musical censorship organisations, the establishment, the police and whoever else has given rock fans a hard time.

So the golden rule kids, before you go and lob a kebab at an emo, remember how you felt when someone last shouted “get a haircut” at you!!

just want to point out bullet for my valentine are not emo……am i the only metal head who actually likes them???

I try my best not to jeer at other people’s music tastes, its all so pointless. But when someone [for example my sister] claims that Chris Martin is a good “musician” I just can’t help myself!
And when people who claim to like all music turn their noses up because of screaming and distorted guitars – gargh!!

“So the golden rule kids, before you go and lob a kebab at an emo, remember how you felt when someone last shouted “get a haircut” at you!!”
Hell yeah! Although, I seem to have passed the stage where people give a damn =D

But stuart all the things he hates revolve around him.

another snub

boohoo

im an old metalhead one of the nwobhm boys and my son like metal but he gets the shit from the emo kids because he isnt wearing the “right “shirt or he donst like the in band .
but he goes to gets and supports the bands he likes just like i always have i also work at a venue and have found most emo/scene kids go on about bands and how great they are then when you book them they dont turn up to the gig to watch them
thats why most metalheads i know take the piss out of the emos cause they just seem like posers they think that getting the right shirt and following what kerrang tells them is more important than going out and watching good bands no matter what the band looks like

well haters who make fun of me for the music i listen to, way i dress and the way i carry myself dont tend to do it again once i see to them about it, ignorance is one of my pet hates and chavs/toffs/townies and what have you only make that mistake once with me as i dont tolerate ignorance directed towards my lifestyle and choice of music.

However, i have never been one to judge/hate on/make fun of “emos” myself, for listening to and wearing what they like?..more power to them for that, u just wont ever catch me listening to that sort of stuff…which is fair enough in my book.

The thing that the guy said about beating each other up in a pit is a lie. It is like a brotherly fight, no harm is caused. Just a bit of banter.

I haven’t come across any metallers who “constantly ridicule and hatemonger against ….” anyone. Apart from the odd comment about Madina Lake in Metal Hammer which seems light-hearted. We’re all too busy talking about metal music, the latest albums, analysing the lyrics etc. Waiting in queues to see bands and talking to total strangers about metal – there isn’t any “hatemongering”. Who are these “pillars of the metal community” who are stirring up trouble and casting aspersions?- let’s pour our wrath on them (talking of Wrath-must have another listen)

Ahem: http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/fred-durst-speaks-out-about-limp-bizkit-reunion/

hey im 21 i listen to alot of old skool metal, slayer, metallica, iron maiden, judas priest, testament, exodus.
these days its nothing much of rap, hip hop, and of course EMO i mean repsect the music but when guys dress up as queers and complain about life just because they lost there shoe or cant open a can of tuna and they have to cry about it and cut themselves its bs but personally i dont like emo music it suckss, i stick with old skool and haters out there well let them be haters it doesnt prove anything except make the metal scene stronger
but like its all stereotyping these days, especially, i despise emo music im not i hate the ppl that listen to it but when it comes for a guy to act like a girl and dress up like a girl and cry for stupid reasons then that bugs me but im just stating opinion.

I think the main problems between sub genres is when they encroach on to each other. My local club is one of the only night clubs that play alternative music but when emo started gaining popularity it meant they played less music. The same with download festival. Metalheads want to see more metal and see bands such as mcr as replacing them.

whilst i do not hate the emo scene in its entirety i do see the reasons the metaeads and punks and goths etc ridicule and insult the emo culture. I believe it is because the large percentage of the emo musical output is crap, and only a few hold the techinical ability to be accepted without ridicule

i really dont see the point in the whole “metalhead vs emo” thing…i mean alot of the music influences the other…and at my school there was a massive fight between…basically “chavs” and “emo’s” a friend of mine almost got seriously hurt…and all the while you could tell the rivalry between the “emos” and “metal heads”…surely we should just kinda stand together.
in a way both groups get a hell of alot of trouble…from sterotypers, when…everyone has the same ideas…being themselves and listening to the music they like…rather than whats “popular” or whatever.
the thing i find most ironic was one time i was in HMV and looking through the cd’ s and there was an argument breaking out…calling eachother “emo fags” and stuff…they both had the same cd in their hand…so to me thats hypocritical…jsut give everyone a chance…just cause they fit into a different sterotype doesnt mean they dont like freaking awesome music…

I’m guilty of slagging emo music, no way of denying that. But i’ve never taken it as far as mistreating someone based on the music they listen to. As Metal4Life said there’s no harm in a little rivalry. My mates who listen to bands I dislike can take a slagging from me because they know it’s just that, a slag. They slag back, no harm.

It is hypocritical and yeah, I don’t feel amazing when people call me emo or druggie when all I listen to is Children of Bodon, Metallica, Cannibal Corpse and all that…

And Stuart, I’m totally with you. I like BulletFor My Valentine…they aren’t emo.

“I became an adult and realized all of that was bullshit. Who gives a damn what people dress like or what they listen to?”

i realised that at the age of 15 (im 16 now)

I dont know how Emo gets mixed up with metal. It dosent make sense. emo bands are NOT METAL. Its whiney bullshit. If some one tells me to cut my hair, i kick their ass, i dont go cut myself or cry in a corner. And by the way, wearing your sisters pants is not metal either!!!!!

As much as I hate the emo scene, I wouldn’t say anything wrong their(emos) way. It’d be a waste of good time.

Hating sucks! People should think constructive, not destructive.

emo is just a word that means little pussy fags and shit music

emo is just a word meaning shitty music and little pussy fags and fukd up hair styles and cut wrist

Stuart, yes I believe you are!

Mean people suck. PERIOD.

Anyone who is that put out by what other people listen to or wear has some serious issues they need to take care of.

Come on guys, I’m sure if there were a group of people who wore distinctive
bright clothing combined with ridiculous hair styles possessing a seemingly instinctive
desire for star tattoos metallers would pick on them too, but alas until then, picking on
the pokemon-backpack wearing, casino loving (which for pre-teens is slightly confusing),
MSI lyric memorising folk of emo-land must suffice.
Which brings me to a profound question…
Is there a need for Emo?
In the event of an apocalypse their nutritional value would be negligible.
Reliance on their parents for lifetime emotional/monetary support is a disadvantage of the species.
If the need for repolpulation arrived, the lack of men in their kind could pose a slight problem.
A need to compare fringe lengths whilst spontaneously combusting* could hurt a little.
Unfortunatly their ipod doesn’t contain lyrics which could save them from an innocent rock somehow
dislodging itself at very high speeds aimed-innocently towards them.
They understand the meaning of the following: Emo – Mirror – Camera =
Upon dissolving with water, they do not explode (this action does however improve their make-up).
Their reaction of jumping up and down when faced with (to normal ears) horrific music exposes
their sacred hair to low flying birds of prey.
Bearing matching tattoos may help identify them in case of nuclear attack and yet to a passing alien
it may camoflage them as one and cause emo-cide.
In conclusion,
Is there a need for canned wine? No, but there it is sitting smugly between bottled wine
and beer knowing it is an inferior excuse for a beverage but content in the fact that you
paused to scowl at it.

*Based on scientific knowledge that upon reaching the age of 3, a member of the emo
sub-culture is 7 times more likely to spontaneously combust than a member of an opposing
species. ‘Not my hair!’ ‘There is not enough apathy in my demise!’ ‘I choose you Magicarp!’.

*lol at thoughts of repopulating self-dividing emo starfish

lol, can i visit your planet please Gigglet?

If you are satisfied in your life you wouldnt feel the need to interfere in the harmles existence of others. If you have to slag off others to make yorself feel better you need some help. Keep yourself otherwise occupied-learn the lyrics of Machine Head, Slayer and Lamb of God-you might learn something!

I remember when My Chemical Romance got bottled at the Download festival and Reading festival.

who gives a fuck if its emo/punk/metal/goth? i thought the whole thing behind rock/metal is to be yourself? and i thought that metal didnt need any kind of label? i mean metal is metal isnt it? personally i see nothing rong with the whole ‘emo’ style/music. and i also see nothing rong with any ‘gothic’, ‘punk’, ‘metal’ styles/music. it dont matter… cant we all just get along? lol

I’ve got to say, as a Metalhead, I dislike Emo music. Plain and simple. However, just because I don’t like Emo music does not mean that I hate all Emo’s. In truth, I’d say I dislike the subculture itself, but not the individuals within it.
I can’t say I have any Emo friends, but I have worked with 2 Emo’s in 2 different workplaces. Because of that, the needing to cooperate with each other, I talked to them and aside from the musical tastes/clothing etc, we seemed to get along fine.
Sure, I sometimes throw the odd Emo joke around, but in all honesty, I’m the kind of person who can listen to and shrug off or even laugh at jokes about Metalheads too.
I think a lot of it aswell has to do with the fact that Metalheads who really despise Emo music kept on seeing these kind of bands on their music video channels, in their Rock and Metal magazines and at the festivals they attend – Download festival for example does seem to be gathering more “softer”/”poppy” music than the average Metalhead seems to enjoy. And I think it annoys the crap out of a lot of them.
Individuality is something attributed to every subculture, and while Metalheads and Punks seemed to put their differences aside in the 80’s, it’s still in a sense a kind of tribal attitude.
I guess what I’m trying to say is, it’s individual personalities. You’re bound to have Metalheads who don’t like people of a certain subculture, and vice versa. Whether it’s just the music, the fashion, or the people themselves. It’s always been there and I don’t know if it will ever go. Personally, if someone treats me with respect, I’ll treat them with respect. Simple as

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Why are we worried about hypocrisy, when we should be worried about metalheads, arguing against metalheads on whether or not “_____” is real metal or not? What we all need to do is highten our sense of brotherhood. Not to make it seems like a cult or something like that, but honestly, brotherhood is what pulled metal through the eighties. We all knew each other, and we all loved each other. Without that, punk would’ve kicked our asses by now. It’s just that, we’re better than that. Today, though, I don’t see too much of that, which saddens me. When I’m walking through public places and I happen to see someone with a metal band’s t-shirt on, I walk over to ‘em and give ‘em a fist pound, compliment his shirt, and then walk away. Why don’t I see that anymore? I know I’m not the only one that does that!

i’m a metal fan through and through so i used to like reading kerrang,metal hammer and such like and also watching channels like kerrang and scuzz .my point is us metalheads hate emo because the emo bands are destroying music .now i can’t read any rock based magazines or watch any rock based tv channels because every second article/music video is …..well…emo .Has no one noticed that emo music is just generic garbage there is no individuality all these emo bands are indistinguishable from one another .and with bands like bullet for my valentine around these days its proof that emo is infecting decent music as they have some metal showing through but with a shit name and shit vocals i can’t take them seriously .